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Topic: '49 ford f-1
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Don Hartman

10-29-2005 09:38:02
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Just bought a pickup. doesn't run needs restored.
I want to keep the v-8 flathead but am wondering what is a good manual trans to use so I can occasionally drive this truck down the highway.
Any other tips apreciatted.
thanks in advance.

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Duner Wi

10-31-2005 17:27:44
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Re: '49 ford f-1 in reply to Don Hartman, 10-29-2005 09:38:02  
An overdrive transmission from a Ford car would help your gearing. Problem is the input shaft which has a larger dia. in the truck. This usually can be overcome by using a car case. 6 cyl. input shaft brg. with the truck input shaft. You might have to come up with the correct cluster gear to mesh with the truck input shaft. Now if you have floor shift you have problems. I did this once but it was 40 years ago. Ford-trucksdotcom has archives with pics and some info. Good luck.

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DCM

10-31-2005 06:30:11
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Re: '49 ford f-1 in reply to Don Hartman, 10-29-2005 09:38:02  
Howdy Don, have a '49 F1 in the resto shop at the moment,about 20 hrs. away from paint. According to my book its the last yr. for the 3 spd on the floor. Will try keep it stock. Its getting very interesting now.Dan in AB

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ff316

10-30-2005 14:22:07
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Re: '49 ford f-1 in reply to Don Hartman, 10-29-2005 09:38:02  
The most popular swap these days is the T-5 5 speed. While not the strongest tranny out there they will hold up to a flathead well as long as they are not abused. The gears are spaced ideally for the flatheads torque curve and you get overdrive so you don't have to swap to a higher ring & pinion.

The most common donor tranny comes from a Chevy/GMC S-10/S-15 pickup. Before you balk at using Chevy parts in your Ford, T-5's are made by Borg-Warner and Ford used them too in Mustangs and Thunderbirds. There are lots of variatins out there, the best are the early 90's, mine's a 93, They are known as "World Class" (WC for short) because they had some upgrades for strength.

Sppedway Motors has the bellhousing adapter you need, there are two types - one uses to Ford clutch shaft, one uses the GM style clutch release.

Cornhusker Street Rod suppliers offers a complete kit with every nut and bolt needed to do the swap.

Good luck!

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big fred

10-29-2005 16:06:49
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Re: '49 ford f-1 in reply to Don Hartman, 10-29-2005 09:38:02  
Stick with the stock non-synchro tranny and learn to double-clutch. Makes for a terrific anti-theft feature. Sure, there's folks out there that could steal it, but for the most part the lazy good-for-nothing types that steal cars wouldn't be able to figure it out. If you're concerned about the getting up to highway speed, you can always stick another rear end in it.

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Bob J

10-30-2005 20:16:25
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Re: Re: '49 ford f-1 in reply to big fred, 10-29-2005 16:06:49  
A rear end from a pre-73 Ford truck is almost a bolt in installation. It's easier than swapping the tranny.

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dhermesc

10-31-2005 09:05:51
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Re: Re: Re: '49 ford f-1 in reply to Bob J, 10-30-2005 20:16:25  
I agree, the problem you have right now is the low speed rear end, wouldn't surprise me if tis a 4.88. The "newer" rear ends from the 60s will also be much tougher.

If you did decide to go with a T5 I wouldn't be worried about strength unless its already been abused, the flathead V8 was very low powered compared to even the smog equipment choked 302s from the early 80s. Not to mention the MD50 (Mazda 5 speed) Ford used (still uses?) from 1987 on in the F150 was even lighter then the T5.

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